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(headw1) トートバッグ
(headw2) トートバック
(pos1) n
(english1) tote bag
(comment) The only amendment proposed is the addition of the alternative headword トートバック, with devoiced final mora. My reason for assuming this is a variant rather than a typo is based on Google, which gives the ratio of グ:ク as just 4:1, making it rather too common to be considered strictly incorrect.
(name) Peter Jolly
(subtype) amend
======= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:49:26 +1000 (EST)
(headw1) とすれば
(pos1) conj
(english1) if it happens that/if we make ../if we take ../if we assume ..
(subtype) new
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(headw1) としたら
(pos1) conj
(english1) if it happens that
(english2) if we make ..
(english3) if we take ..
(english4) if we assume ..
(reference) http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A4%C8%A4%B7%A4%BF%A4%E9&kind=jn
(name) Paul Blay
(subtype) new
======= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:33:58 +1000 (EST)
(headw1) 約束を違える
(kana1) やくそくをちがえる
(pos1) n
(comment) 約束を違える 【やくそくをちがえる】 (exp) to break a promise
It might be Kansai-ben but all I ever heard and used for "break a promise" was 約束をやぶれる, sometimes simply
約束やぶれ
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
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(headw1) ばらす
(kana1) ばらす
(pos1) n
(comment) ばらす (v5s,vt) (1) to expose; to lay open (e.g., secret); (2) to take to pieces; (3) to kill; to murder
For "expose, etc. (a secret)" but nothing else included in the rendering ばらす is very, very common and might deserve a P. Now, I know you fellows will rebut by quoting countless sources written by fuddy-duddy old men in smoke-filled rooms so I am fully prepared to return to my fetal position in the corner and lick my wounds.
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
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(headw1) 友達感覚
(kana1) ともだちかんかく
(pos1) n
(comment) 友達感覚 【ともだちかんかく】 (n) relationship that is like that of friends
I would change the rendering to "feeling like friends; the feeling of friendship"
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
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(headw1) 仲がいい
(kana1) なかがいい
(pos1) n
(comment) 仲がいい 【なかがいい】 (n) close; intimate
Although the Japanese hate to say this as it is socially embarrassing, I have heard it used when a relationship was completely rupted: 中が悪い
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
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(headw1) 婉曲
(kana1) えんきょく
(pos1) n
(comment) 婉曲 【えんきょく】 (adj-na,n) euphemistic; circumlocution; roundabout; indirect; insinuating
I really, really do not like the inclusion of "insinuation" in the rendering as it connotes a sneakiness. 婉曲方 instead represents a very fundament in Japanese communication. Here, for example, is what I added to my list:
仲がいい なかがいい naka ga ii = close; intimate
仲が悪い なかがわるい naka ga warui = Note: This indicates the relationship is completely rupted, a situation which in confrontation-avoidance Japan is to be avoided at all costs. One argument, no matter how inconsequential by Western standards, rupts a relationship, with even a close friend in Japan.
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
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(headw1) 慣れる
(kana1) なれる
(pos1) n
(comment) 慣れる(P); 馴れる; 狎れる 【なれる
Oh boy, how I hate inconsistency! Please rationalize the following, attending to the first choice Kanji:
1) 聞き馴れる
2) 住み慣れる
3) 使い慣れる
4) 人馴れる
Hey, what can I say. I saw first hand how bad the Kanji knowledge of the Kyoto University students was. Perhaps they take refuge in this chaos. I do not.
(name) Dennis
(subtype) amend
======= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:52:41 +1000 (EST)
(headw1) となれば
(pos1) exp
(english1) where .. is concerned
(english2) when it becomes
(english3) it it becomes
(comment) Use in the phrase いざとなれば is particularly common.
(name) Paul Blay
(subtype) new
======= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:54:48 +1000 (EST)
(headw1) となったら
(pos1) exp
(english1) where .. is concerned
(english2) when it becomes
(english3) it it becomes
(comment) Use in the phrase いざとなったら is particularly common.
(name) Paul Blay
(subtype) new
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(headw1) 虚心担懐
(kana1) きょしんたんかい
(pos1) n
(comment) Incorrect Kanji. Correct version is also in dictionary.
虚心担懐 ×
虚心坦懐 ○ （土偏）
(name) Robin Andrews
(subtype) amend