New Entries/Amendments for 2009-03-05

These are the submissions received via the WWW forms for this day. I (Jim Breen) will annotate the submission if I think it needs to be amended or rejected or if I have a question about it. Otherwise it can be assumed that it has been accepted. You can see how it will look in EDICT by looking at the "diffs" file for this day or the next in the diffs directory.
Annotations completed: 5 Feb.
Current EntryÁ· [¤¼¤ó] /(n) (small) table/tray/meal/(P)/ (1396490)
Headword 1Á·
Reading 1¤¼¤ó
Part-of-speechn
English 1(small) table
English 2tray
English 3meal
English 4serving
English 5plate
English 6dish
Other language optioneng
NameName
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment Any ref for plate/dish? (Apart from being a counter for bowls, etc.)

Current EntryÁ· [¤¼¤ó] /(n) (small) table/tray/meal/(P)/ (1396490)
Headword 1Á·
Reading 1¤¼¤ó
Part-of-speechn
English 1(1) small dining table (usu. for a single person)/serving tray (with legs)
English 2(2) meal/food
English 3(suf,ctr) (3) counter for bowlfuls of rice
English 4counter for pairs of chopsticks
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
Commenti'm surprised the "pairs of chopsticks" wasn't in there already
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NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment That's how I redid it (I should have looked ahead ...)

Current EntryÀõ´Ö»³Áñ»ö·ï;¤¢¤µ¤Þ»³Áñ»ö·ï [¤¢¤µ¤Þ¤µ¤ó¤½¤¦¤¸¤±¤ó] /(n) famous robbery and hostage-taking in 1972/ (1922440)
Headword 1Àõ´Ö»³Áñ»ö·ï
Headword 2¤¢¤µ¤Þ»³Áñ»ö·ï
Reading 1¤¢¤µ¤Þ¤µ¤ó¤½¤¦¤¸¤±¤ó
Part-of-speechn
English 1Asama-Sanso incident (famous robbery and hostage-taking in 1972)
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NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment

Current EntryÀõ´Ö»³Áñ»ö·ï;¤¢¤µ¤Þ»³Áñ»ö·ï [¤¢¤µ¤Þ¤µ¤ó¤½¤¦¤¸¤±¤ó] /(n) famous robbery and hostage-taking in 1972/ (1922440)
Headword 1Àõ´Ö»³Áñ»ö·ï
Headword 2¤¢¤µ¤Þ»³Áñ»ö·ï
Reading 1¤¢¤µ¤Þ¤µ¤ó¤½¤¦¤¸¤±¤ó
Part-of-speechn
English 1Asama-Sanso incident (famous hostage crisis and police siege in Feb. 1972)
Referencewiki
Commentactually, this seems to have nothing to do with robbery
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NameRene Malenfant
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Current Entry°ì¶Ë [¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯] /(n,adj-no) quindecillion (US)/octillion (Europe)/10^48/
Headword 1°ì¶Ë
Reading 1¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯
Part-of-speechn,adj-no
English 1quindecillion (US)
English 2octillion (Europe)
English 310^48
Commenti believe the ¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯ in the IME represents:

°ì¶Ë½¸Ãæ ¡Ú¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯¤·¤å¤¦¤Á¤å¤¦¡Û (n) overconcentration [G][GI][S][A]

or kojien's:
¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯¡¾¤«¡Ú°ì¶Ë²½¡Û¡Å¥¯¥ï
¤µ¤Þ¤¶¤Þ¤ÊÁÈ¿¥¤äµ¡Ç½¤¬1¥«½ê¤Ë½¸¤Þ¤ë¤³¤È¡£¡ÖÀ¯¼£¤Î¡½¡×

so °ì¶Ë[¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯] would mean 'agglomeration at a single point', etc., and °ì¶Ë[¤¤¤Á¤´¤¯] would be used for counting.

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NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment See later comment.

Current EntryÁêÈ¿ [¤¢¤¤¤Ï¤ó] /(vs) to be contrary/to run counter to/to conflict/to contravene/ (1581295)
Headword 1ÁêÈ¿
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤Ï¤ó
Part-of-speechvs
English 1to be contrary
English 2to run counter to
English 3to conflict
English 4to contravene
ReferenceHmmmmm.
ÁêÈ¿¤·¤Ê¤¤ - ~15,000 Googits
ÁêÈ¿¤µ¤Ê¤¤ - ~200 Googits.
I'd say vs, not vs-s. A PoS of just "vs" alone means that it would be invariably ÁêÈ¿¤¹¤ë, etc. just as "adj-na" alone implies, e.g. ÀŤ«¤Ê, ÀŤ«¤Ë, ÀŤ«¤Ç¤¹, etc.
CommentI'm not sure I understand the comment.

I thought (vs) and (vs-s) were considered to be absolutely identical, except that (vs-s) *actually has the ¤¹¤ë in the entry itself*, whereas (vs) implies that ¤¹¤ë should be *added* to the end of the entry.

The conjugations are identical, right? The ¡Á¤µ¤Ê¤¤ is common to both of them, since they both take °Ù[¤¹] in place of °Ù¤ë[¤¹¤ë] when they are used in ʸ¸ì. (The reason the ¡Á¤µ¤Ê¤¤ is so much more common in things like °¦¤¹¤ë (vs-s) is because of the existence of the derived °¦¤¹ (v5s), which is ¸ý¸ì.)

So I guess what I'm saying is, if an entry like ÁêÈ¿ can't be used as a noun, there's no reason not to have it entered as ÁêÈ¿¤¹¤ë (vs-s,vi), and that matches the precedent set by all the dictionaries in the original reference.
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NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment I'll transcribe this into an email on the list so that the issue can be discussed there.

Current EntryÁêÈ¿ [¤¢¤¤¤Ï¤ó] /(vs) to be contrary/to run counter to/to conflict/to contravene/ (1581295)
Headword 1ÁêÈ¿
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤Ï¤ó
Part-of-speechvs
English 1to be contrary
English 2to run counter to
English 3to conflict
English 4to contravene
CommentAssuming my interpretation of (vs) and (vs-s) equivalence within the edict tag system is correct, that is.
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NameRene Malenfant
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Headword 1½á¤Ó¤ë
Reading 1¤Û¤È¤Ó¤ë
Part-of-speechv5r
Part-of-speechvi
English 1to be rehydrated or reconstituted
English 2to swell from absorbed moisture
Cross-reference½á¤±¤ë
Referencehttp://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=潤&dtype=0&stype=2&dname=0na&pagenum=41&index=19564617053300
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Current Entry±Ñ¸ì»úËë [¤¨¤¤¤´¤¸¤Ð¤¯] /(n) English subtitles/TempSUB/
Headword 1±Ñ¸ì»úËë
Reading 1¤¨¤¤¤´¤¸¤Þ¤¯
Part-of-speechn
English 1English subtitles
English 2TempSUB
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NameName
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment Thanks. I should have checked that.

Headword 1»³¤ÎÃæ
Reading 1¤ä¤Þ¤Î¤Ê¤«
Part-of-speechn
English 1??? (see comments)
Commenti'm learning japanese, and i have been working through a bunch of japanese readers. many of these are japanese folk tales, and a number of them use the phrase "»³¤ÎÃæ¡É as the setting for something happening. i read that as something like "in the heart of the mountains", which i picture as a pretty inaccessible place. but in the stories it seems to be used more as "somewhere in the mountains".

i guess i'm not necessarily proposing a new entry, but if you happen to have a good definition for this one, it would be nice to see it in the dictionary :-)

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Editorial Comment It's really far too common a construction to have in a dictionary. Go to http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?11 and search for »³¤ÎÃæ.

Current Entryƶ»¡ÎÏ [¤É¤¦¤µ¤Ä¤ê¤ç¤¯] /(n) insight/discernment/ (1687840)
Headword 1ƶ»¡ÎÏ
Reading 1¤É¤¦¤µ¤Ä¤ê¤ç¤¯
Part-of-speechn
English 1insight
English 2discernment
English 3perception
English 4perspicacity
English 5acumen
Other language optioneng
NameName
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment

Current EntryÁêÁ°¸å [¤¢¤¤¤¼¤ó¤´] /(n,vs) going one after another/in succession/in tandem/ (2021460)
Headword 1ÁêÁ°¸å
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤¼¤ó¤´
Part-of-speechn,vs
English 1going one after another
English 2in succession
English 3in tandem
Commentthis is another one that dictionaries only have as ÁêÁ°¸å¤¹¤ë.

here's a preliminary list of other non-single-character candidates for (vs):

¤¢¤¤¡¾¤¿¤¤¡¦¤¹¤ë¡ÚÁêÂФ¹¤ë¡Û
¤¢¤¤¡¾¤Ê¤«¤Ð¡¦¤¹¤ë¡ÚÁêȾ¤Ð¤¹¤ë¡Û
¤¢¤¤¡¾¤ï¡¦¤¹¤ë¡ÚÁêϤ¹¤ë¡Û
¤¢¤Á¤³¤Á¡¦¤¹¤ë¡ÚÈàÊýº¡Êý¤¹¤ë¡Û
¤ª¤Ê¤¸¤å¤¦¡¦¤¹¤ë¡ÚƱ¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë¡Û
¤¿¤¯¤Þ¤·¤å¤¦¡¦¤¹¤ë¡Úí÷¤·¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë¡Û
¤Ê¤ó¤Ê¤ó¤È¡¦¤¹¤ë¡Ú¢¦¿â¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë¡Û
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NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment ¤¢¤Á¤³¤Á???
for ÁêÂÐ/¤¢¤¤¤¿¤¤, GG5 has it solo, with examples for ÁêÂФÇ.
GG5 has a combined entry for ÁêϤ¹¤ë/ÁêϤ¹.
For the proposed entries for Ʊ¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë, í÷¤·¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë, ¿â¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë with a note to address the vs/vs-s possibility.

Current EntryÁêÁ°¸å [¤¢¤¤¤¼¤ó¤´] /(n,vs) going one after another/in succession/in tandem/ (2021460)
Headword 1ÁêÁ°¸å
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤¼¤ó¤´
Part-of-speechn,vs
English 1going one after another
English 2in succession
English 3in tandem
Comment(vs-s), rather
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NameRene Malenfant
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Current EntryƱ¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹ [¤ª¤Ê¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹] /(?) ???/RH/
Headword 1Ʊ¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë
Reading 1¤ª¤Ê¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë
Part-of-speechvs-s,vi
English 1(from Ʊ¤¸¤¯¤¹¤ë) (as ¡Á¤òƱ¤¸¤å¤¦¤¹¤ë) to be the same/to coincide/to correspond
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
Commentsupposedly intransitive, but used with an ¤ò, so i guess it's intransitive like ¡Á¤òÊ⤯
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NameRene Malenfant
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Current Entry·ç´Ù [¤±¤Ã¤«¤ó] /(n) defect/fault/deficiency/(P)/ (1253950)
Headword 1·ç´Ù
Reading 1¤±¤Ã¤«¤ó
Part-of-speechn
English 1(1) defect
English 2fault, deformity
English 3deficiency
English 4(2) shortfall
English 5gap
English 6shortage
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Current Entry¶×àî [¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä] /(?) ???/RH/
Headword 1¶×àî
Reading 1¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä
Part-of-speechn
English 1(1) (See ¶×,àî) qin and se (two different kinds of Chinese zither)
English 2(2) happy marriage
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
Other language optioneng
NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typenew
Editorial Comment

Headword 1ÁêϤ¹¤ë
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤ï¤¹¤ë
Part-of-speechvs-s
Part-of-speechvi
English 1to get along well together
English 2to be in tune with one another
English 3to harmonize with each other
English 4to go well together
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
NameRene Malenfant
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Editorial Comment

Current EntryÁêϤ¹ [¤¢¤¤¤ï¤¹] /(v5s) to grow together/to join together (in doing something)/ (2024670)
Headword 1ÁêϤ¹
Reading 1¤¢¤¤¤ï¤¹
Part-of-speechv5s,vi
English 1(See ÁêϤ¹¤ë) to get along well together
English 2to be in tune with one another
English 3to harmonize with each other
English 4to go well together
Referencedaijr, daijs
Other language optioneng
NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment

Current Entry¶×àîÁêϤ¹ [¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä¤¢¤¤¤ï¤¹] /(n) happily married/ (1681910)
Headword 1¶×àîÁêϤ¹
Reading 1¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä¤¢¤¤¤ï¤¹
Part-of-speechexp
English 1(obsc) to be happily married (lit: to go together like two zithers)
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
Other language optioneng
NameRene Malenfant
Submission Typeamend
Editorial Comment

Current Entry¶×àîÁêÏ [¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä¤½¤¦¤ï] /(n,vs) pair of persons (especially a married couple) being intimate and harmonious/being happily married/ (2030610)
Headword 1¶×àîÁêÏÂ
Reading 1¤­¤ó¤·¤Ä¤½¤¦¤ï
Part-of-speechn,vs
English 1(See ¶×àîÁêϤ¹) (obsc) pair of persons (especially a married couple) being intimate and harmonious
English 2being happily married
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NameRene Malenfant
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Current Entry¿â¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë [¤Ê¤ó¤Ê¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë] /(?) ???/RH/
Headword 1¿â¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë
Reading 1¤Ê¤ó¤Ê¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë
Part-of-speechvs-s,vi
English 1(See ¿â¤ó¤È¤¹) (uk) to close in on (30 years of age, etc.)/to approach/to get close to
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs, prog
Other language optioneng
NameRene Malenfant
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Editorial Comment

Headword 1¿â¤ó¤È¤¹
Reading 1¤Ê¤ê¤Ê¤ó¤È¤¹
Reading 2¤Ê¤ó¤Ê¤ó¤È¤¹
Part-of-speechexp
Miscarch
English 1to close in on (30 years of age, etc.)/to approach/to get close to
Cross-reference¿â¤ó¤È¤¹¤ë
Referencekoj, daijr, daijs
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Current Entry°ì¶Ë [¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯] /(n,adj-no) quindecillion (US)/octillion (Europe)/10^48/
Headword 1°ì¶Ë
Reading 1¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯
Part-of-speechn,adj-no
English 1quindecillion (US)
English 2octillion (Europe)
English 310^48
CommentComment: °ì¶Ë ¤¤¤Ã¤­¤ç¤¯ is indeed an existing word as J.B. indicates, but it means "monopole" (or singular pole or unipole) and can be paired with Æó¶Ë ¤Ë¤­¤ç¤¯ (two poles => bipolar, etc.).

10^48 is most certainly °ì¶Ë ¤¤¤Á¤´¤¯.
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Editorial Comment OK, I'll make it that. Two entries.